Interview with Professor Catherine Barnard, what now for Brexit?

Barnard, Professor of EU Law at the University of Cambridge and Senior Fellow of 'UK in a Changing Europe' looks at the options for Brexit with four days to go until the original Brexit deadline. Barnard examines why May's deal hit the rocks, why her triggering of Article 50 so soon after the Leave vote in June 2016 and her drawing up of her list of red lines, which meant the UK would not agree to the freedom of movement of people and remaining in a customs union, rooted May firmly in the Brexiteer European Research Group's camp. Barnard says that this has stopped her reaching out across party. Barnard also responds to criticism of the EU and how it conducted the Brexit negotiations. The two stage process the EU insisted on of first negotiating the divorce in the form of the Withdrawal Agreement and then the Political Agreement, has led to considerable confusion for those seeking to understand the process. Overall, Barnard believes the EU 27 have acted well toward the UK, but that May's cabinet, the Conservative Party and Parliament has been split on the issue and a series of Indicative Votes may not resolve this. Barnard is speaking after one million marched in London to demand a People's Vote and as five million had signed an online petition to revoke Article 50. A Sky News Poll had revealed that 90% of respondents thought Brexit was a 'national humiliation' and Barnard does not see this as a surprise. Barnard says 'it's a fool's game to predict any of these scenarios. The only thing that we can do unilaterally without having to depend on the EU's agreement is to revoke Article 50'. Barnard also believes the UK Civil Service has done an extraordinary job in immensely difficult circumstances of preparing for the UK to leave the EU with or without a deal. This was recorded as part of Barnard’s 2903cb podcast and is one of thirteen she has conducted with Sones.